Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

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Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#1 Post by Flanders » 2015-09-25 10:08

It would be nice to have an option to enable "Force UTF-8" for all FTP Connections into the App Settings.

I'm working with many vsftpd servers which only encode special characters the right way when enabling that option.

It's an convenience thing just to click on a full ftp link as to open FileZilla first and log into.

Thank you a lot.

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Re: Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#2 Post by shaim » 2023-03-13 13:37

Post from 2015 and now is 2023 and still same... No movement forward.
I will be happy, if this will be added.

Why no one else is requesting this feature?

It's really boring and wasting of time to enable selective for EVERY website this feature.

Is it possible to add to filezilla global settings for this behaviour?

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Re: Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#3 Post by botg » 2023-03-13 15:03

FileZilla uses UTF-8 by default. It only falls back to non-UTF-8 if the server itself is sending non-UTF-8 data. Fix your server.

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Re: Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#4 Post by shaim » 2023-03-13 15:08

botg wrote:
2023-03-13 15:03
FileZilla uses UTF-8 by default. It only falls back to non-UTF-8 if the server itself is sending non-UTF-8 data. Fix your server.
OK, so I have to write to every webhosting company, where it is not working? Great really.
I know about ten webhosting companies with this issue. And we have hundreds clients there and still we have this issues.

Still it is very borging to repeatly checking for every single site.

It is really so complicated to add it like default settings?

I know, it's not filezilla problem, but this global settings will solve this issue.

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Re: Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#5 Post by boco » 2023-03-13 19:13

I know about ten webhosting companies with this issue.
So, you automatically know ten webhosting companies to move away from. They had decades now to fix their sh*t.
I know, it's not filezilla problem, but this global settings will solve this issue.
Nothing would be solved at all. It would only achieve one thing: removing the need and pressure for them to fix the servers once and for all. Each and every halfway-decent FTP server software released in the last decade fully supports UTF-8. There is no need to support a bunch of lazy d*cks making the quick buck without investing some resources to move forward. UTF-8 is nothing new, it's actually ancient!
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Re: Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#6 Post by shaim » 2023-03-13 19:22

Let me try to explain my "use case". I agree with you, but we are trying to move clients away and for this we need this feature as well.

- We know it, but our customers no. Hosting is their choise, not my...
- In every case, it's very funny, we use Filezilla to move them to better hosting, but for this reason we need this feature to be added..
- We already tried, but customers are moving away from them, BUT, its thousands of customers, so we migrate them to another hosting and we every time need to MANUAL change UTF-8 settings

This is complicated for us, I personally do this "click job" for example 20 times per day for last X years and I am very tired with this, to remember every time after creating a new ftp connection to check UTF-8 Force.

I hope I explain this case :)

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Re: Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#7 Post by Eliezer » 2023-04-25 10:30

The developers of Filezilla have made it very, very clear that they don't care about this issue and they have no intention of fixing anything. (They've known about it for, it seems, at least 15 years! But they've chosen to die on the hill that this "isn't their problem".)

(No, I don't own the servers I'm connected to, they're shared hosting. No, I don't have root permission on them, they belong to the customers, and the customers don't give a fuck whether their server is compatible with Filezilla, because it works for them.)

Honestly, it seems to me that adding a little popup saying, "Hey, we couldn't copy these files because of invalid encoding, would you like me to retry the failed files while forcing UTF-8?" would be a very welcome feature.

But as a workaround in the meantime, when copying files that aren't using English letters, I'd recommend using an alternative program, such as WinSCP, scp, or rsync, which actually.... copies files when you ask it to.

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Re: Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#8 Post by shaim » 2023-04-25 11:48

Nice, so...

...solution is switch from FileZilla to WinSCP...
Strange recommendation on FileZilla forums :)

In my opinion adding the "global settings" for "Force UTF-8" shouldn't be so complicated...

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Re: Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#9 Post by boco » 2023-04-25 16:24

Might help adding (one of) those commands

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OPTS UTF-8 ON
SITE OPTS UTF-8 ON
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Re: Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#10 Post by shaim » 2023-04-25 17:02

Thank you, but this isn't solving issue, because I still must manually add this lines do every "<Server>" tag, or I have something missed?

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Re: Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#11 Post by boco » 2023-04-25 17:20

You have to add this one time to all affected Site Manager entries. Then, it will be automatically applied every time you use that these Site Manager entries.

Unfortunately, there's no GUI for entering Post login commands, yet.
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Re: Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#12 Post by botg » 2023-04-25 17:50

Post-login commands will go the way of the dodo. A much better approach is to simply fix the broken servers.

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Re: Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#13 Post by shaim » 2023-04-25 19:37

boco wrote:
2023-04-25 17:20
You have to add this one time to all affected Site Manager entries. Then, it will be automatically applied every time you use that these Site Manager entries.

Unfortunately, there's no GUI for entering Post login commands, yet.
It's solving nothing.

We are not talking about "safe servers", but every day I add new and new servers for login... So no solution for me..

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Re: Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#14 Post by shaim » 2023-04-25 19:40

botg wrote:
2023-04-25 17:50
Post-login commands will go the way of the dodo. A much better approach is to simply fix the broken servers.
You didn't read this topic I think.

Like I already wrote in past.

I am not an admin of public webhosting, where we are facing this issue...

Not possible. We are migrating clients away. Webhosting don't care about this. Already reported many times.

So I don't know, why FileZilla don't make this switch for global settings for years...

I know, it's problem of server! But it do problems to me as well with never-ending checkbox clicking for nothing. Global settings = 1 click and no issues...

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Re: Please make "Force UTF-8" a global settings option

#15 Post by botg » 2023-04-25 20:41

I am not an admin of public webhosting, where we are facing this issue...

Not possible. We are migrating clients away.
That is the correct approach. Migrate clients away from broken webhosting companies. If they run out of business, the broken hosting companies will go away.

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