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UTF-8 characters/files not displayed from shares within Windows

Posted: 2018-10-06 11:00
by z624391
Files/directories with UTF-8 characters are not displayed from the local shares within Windows (10) although the shares are correctly displayed under Windows Explorer. Shares are provisioned from a QNAP TS-453 (software up-to-date) supporting (and enabled) UTF-8.
Also using FileZilla to the local QNAP TS-453 has the same result, files/directories are not displayed.
Copy an example to to a local disk FileZilla has no problem with it.
Using an alternate solution (Cyberduck) Files/directories are correctly displayed.
What am I missing here?

I executed the FEAT command to see what is supported:
Opdracht: FEAT
Antwoord: 211-Features:
Antwoord: AUTH TLS
Antwoord: MFF modify;UNIX.group;UNIX.mode;
Antwoord: REST STREAM
Antwoord: MLST modify*;perm*;size*;type*;unique*;UNIX.group*;UNIX.mode*;UNIX.owner*;
Antwoord: UTF8
Antwoord: LANG en-US*
Antwoord: EPRT
Antwoord: EPSV
Antwoord: MDTM
Antwoord: SSCN
Antwoord: TVFS
Antwoord: MFMT
Antwoord: SIZE
Antwoord: PROT
Antwoord: CCC
Antwoord: PBSZ
Antwoord: 211 End

Re: UTF-8 characters/files not displayed from shares within Windows

Posted: 2018-10-06 11:16
by z624391
I saw what is happening: I was focussed on "Céline Dion" and didn't noticed that the order of appearance was not correctly (i.e. the same as Windows Explorer) displayed.
The "Céline Dion" entry was displayed after the last "normal" characters. Maybe FileZilla can say something about that (because Cyberduck follow's the Windows Explorer order display).

Reading more from Wikipedia the same order display applies to UTF-8. But I am not a developer ...

Re: UTF-8 characters/files not displayed from shares within Windows

Posted: 2018-10-06 21:37
by botg
FileZilla does not collate (too slow) filenames when sorting, it sorts by the value (fast) of the character.

Re: UTF-8 characters/files not displayed from shares within Windows

Posted: 2018-10-07 01:11
by boco
@botg: How about "Natural file sort" in the Settings?

Re: UTF-8 characters/files not displayed from shares within Windows

Posted: 2018-10-07 08:36
by botg
boco wrote:
2018-10-07 01:11
@botg: How about "Natural file sort" in the Settings?
Only deals with the digits 0-9.

Re: UTF-8 characters/files not displayed from shares within Windows

Posted: 2018-10-11 12:48
by z624391
Hello,

You speak about performance impact when UTF-8 sorting should be taken into account. When Windows Explorer does it, I think that the impact is quite limited.

The programming impact depends on which programming language is used. Some of them (C#, Java and Flash for example) do support UTF-8 (and even UTF-16) and will also limit the developing time.

We can live with this problem but it is sometimes a little bit unhandy.

Bart Kamminga (NL)