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New Version Pop-Up even when "never" selected

#1 Post by fredphoesh » 2019-08-21 15:35

Hello peeps.

I have opted to never be told with a pop-up that there is a new version available, and have chosen "never" in the Filezilla updates section in settings, and yet I get a popup every time I open filezilla.

I guess this is a bug, but the bug writing process seems very complicated, so thought it'd be better to bring up the issue here.

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Mark.

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Re: New Version Pop-Up even when "never" selected

#2 Post by boco » 2019-08-21 21:08

First, bug writing requires no complicated process. Bugs are conveniently adding themselves during normal coding. Every developer will confirm that.

Writing a bug report (trac ticket) isn't that complicated, either.


What you observe is not a bug, just a lack of understanding how the feature works. You did NOT opt out to "never be told with a pop-up that there is a new version available". The "Never" in the settings only refers to the update check. Any update that had been found before you set it to "Never" will still be offered to you.

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Re: New Version Pop-Up even when "never" selected

#3 Post by fredphoesh » 2019-08-23 10:05

So you set FileZilla to NEVER check for updates automatically (which is what I DO have already)
But it does check for updates automatically anyway?

I don't understand what this feature does then.

How to I make Filezilla NOT display a pop up every time a new version is available?

I think what you're not explaining, and perhaps this is the case... that if my app says "New Version Available!" and I update it after first setting Filezilla to never check updates automatically, then it will not check for updates again and will not do the pop ups? So it only pop ups now because it had already found an update before I set it to never check? If this is the case then I hope my explanation helps someone else... and a better way of doing this would be to simply have a toggle for "notify about updates" yes - no.

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Re: New Version Pop-Up even when "never" selected

#4 Post by boco » 2019-08-23 10:40

So you set FileZilla to NEVER check for updates automatically (which is what I DO have already)
But it does check for updates automatically anyway?
No, it does not check for any newer updates. But the updates it had already found before are stored in the configuration and will continue to be offered until you either update or clear the update info. Process is described in the linked post.
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Re: New Version Pop-Up even when "never" selected

#5 Post by fredphoesh » 2019-08-23 12:48

boco wrote:
2019-08-23 10:40
So you set FileZilla to NEVER check for updates automatically (which is what I DO have already)
But it does check for updates automatically anyway?
No, it does not check for any newer updates. But the updates it had already found before are stored in the configuration and will continue to be offered until you either update or clear the update info. Process is described in the linked post.
EXACTLY what i just said - so... why the "no..."

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Re: New Version Pop-Up even when "never" selected

#6 Post by boco » 2019-08-23 20:20

You wrote "But it does check for updates automatically anyway?", that statement is simply wrong. It does not check anymore if set to "Never". It just offers what it had be found online BEFORE you set it to "Never". In other words, all found updates are cached, the setting only prevents checking, not offering from the cache.
So it only pop ups now because it had already found an update before I set it to never check?
Correct, that information can be cleared (I linked to the procedure). Only then, the dialog windows stop, as does your eligibility for any support, here. Support is only offered for the very latest version (stable).
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Re: New Version Pop-Up even when "never" selected

#7 Post by botg » 2019-08-25 07:32

Currently working on a great new feature where FileZilla will simply know based on the elapsed time that some unknown new version is available even if checking is disabled.

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Re: New Version Pop-Up even when "never" selected

#8 Post by boco » 2019-08-26 09:12

@botg: Setting it truly to NEVER should only be possible for admins who have a different deploy method. Deploying a new version through other means (like running the installer, or, FileZilla by itself recognizing that it has been updated) must therefore be able to reset the nag counter, somehow.
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Re: New Version Pop-Up even when "never" selected

#9 Post by fredphoesh » 2019-08-27 09:13

Hi
Well, for my purposes, all is fine now. I set it to Never and did a final update, and now I can use Filezilla without the pop ups every time I use it...
Thanks, much better!
Once a year or so I will do a manual update!
Cheers,
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Re: New Version Pop-Up even when "never" selected

#10 Post by boco » 2019-08-27 09:31

Your decision. But, no support for you, in this case. There are reasons for updates, especially for a network-related software.
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Re: New Version Pop-Up even when "never" selected

#11 Post by fredphoesh » 2019-08-28 08:44

boco wrote:
2019-08-27 09:31
Your decision. But, no support for you, in this case. There are reasons for updates, especially for a network-related software.
LOL
yes dear.
I am quite capable of spending 20 seconds to update if and when i need to get support etc. For my limited uses, I have not needed any of the countless updates I've made over the last few years, Filezilla did a fine job many years ago, still does.

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