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Help -> Check for Update menu item is not working

#1 Post by dpbaker57 » 2021-03-19 16:22

When I click on Help -> Check for Updates ... the new window pops up and the cursor spins for a bit and I get the message "information about the latest version of FileZilla could not be retrieved. Please try again later." and a try again link is shown. No matter when or how many times I try this is all that I get. I do not have a proxy in the way. Anyone have an idea of what is wrong? Should I file a bug ticket? Client info below.

FileZilla Client
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Version: 3.53.0

Build information:
Compiled for: x86_64-apple-darwin20.3.0
Compiled on: x86_64-apple-darwin20.3.0
Build date: 2021-03-15
Compiled with: Apple clang version 12.0.0 (clang-1200.0.32.29)
Compiler flags: -O2 -g -Wall -Wextra -pedantic -O2 -g -Wall -Wextra -pedantic -Werror=partial-availability

Linked against:
wxWidgets: 3.0.6
SQLite: 3.31.1
GnuTLS: 3.6.15

Operating system:
Name: Mac OS X (Darwin 20.3.0 x86_64)
Version: 11.2
CPU features: sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 sse4.1 sse4.2 avx avx2 aes pclmulqdq rdrnd bmi bmi2 adx lm
Settings dir: /Users/dpb657/.config/filezilla/

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Re: Help -> Check for Update menu item is not working

#2 Post by botg » 2021-03-22 09:25

Cannot reproduce. Make sure FileZilla is not being blocked by some firewall or AV product.

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Re: Help -> Check for Update menu item is not working

#3 Post by dpbaker57 » 2021-03-22 13:53

May I get the target URL? I would like to try telnet and nc to get back any errors that may help debug my connectivity.

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Re: Help -> Check for Update menu item is not working

#4 Post by botg » 2021-03-22 17:33

Checking for updates is done through update.filezilla-project.org port 443

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Re: Help -> Check for Update menu item is not working

#5 Post by dpbaker57 » 2021-03-22 18:45

Looks like the certificate is self-signed. I do not have that cached nor would I want to if it is at all possible to avoid it. Are you able to use a free LetsEncrypt certificate?
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Re: Help -> Check for Update menu item is not working

#6 Post by boco » 2021-03-23 05:10

Why? It is not a public service and only FileZilla products will use it.

Apart from that, and contrary to what the CA trust mafia wants you to believe, self-signed certificates are not less safe as the paid ones. As long as you have verified or do trust the issuer/signer, they are perfectly safe. update.filezilla-project uses a self-signed certificate, and FileZilla knows (and trusts) it. I see no problem in that.

By the way, FileZilla itself does not make any distinction between self-signed certificates and paid ones. Each and every certificate not known to FileZilla needs to be confirmed by the user. There is no implied trust at all.
### BEGIN SIGNATURE BLOCK ###
No support requests per PM! You will NOT get any reply!!!
FTP connection problems? Do yourself a favor and read Network Configuration.
FileZilla connection test: https://filezilla-project.org/conntest.php
### END SIGNATURE BLOCK ###

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Re: Help -> Check for Update menu item is not working

#7 Post by botg » 2021-03-23 09:01

The certificate on update.filezilla-project.org is not self-signed. It is signed by the updater CA trusted by FileZilla, in fact the only CA FileZilla trusts for updates.

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Re: Help -> Check for Update menu item is not working

#8 Post by boco » 2021-03-24 01:20

But you didn't pay a CA to sign it.
### BEGIN SIGNATURE BLOCK ###
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FTP connection problems? Do yourself a favor and read Network Configuration.
FileZilla connection test: https://filezilla-project.org/conntest.php
### END SIGNATURE BLOCK ###

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#9 Post by botg » 2021-03-24 08:08

Correct. For security reasons I created my own CA, one that cannot be compromised by the highest bidder or the government.

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Re: Help -> Check for Update menu item is not working

#10 Post by boco » 2021-03-24 09:35

That was what I meant. Maybe should have said "self-issued", not self-signed.
### BEGIN SIGNATURE BLOCK ###
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FTP connection problems? Do yourself a favor and read Network Configuration.
FileZilla connection test: https://filezilla-project.org/conntest.php
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