The one missing feature, IMHO
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The one missing feature, IMHO
When you are editing a file, FileZilla always asks before uploading it. If there was a way to make this automatic (without prompting, uploading the file whenever it changes) then I could FINALLY stop using winSCP.
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No, it would lead to file corruptions. Programs not asking for confirmation gamble with your files' contents.
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Why? Is FileZilla defective in some way?botg wrote:No, it would lead to file corruptions. Programs not asking for confirmation gamble with your files' contents.
I ask, because when I use SmartFTP, the file is automatically uploaded after I make modifications without requesting confirmation.
You may wish to look into making this available for those of us who risk "gambling with our files". I like to live on the edge.
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SmartFTP gambles with your data.I ask, because when I use SmartFTP, the file is automatically uploaded after I make modifications without requesting confirmation.
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How? Please explain directly rather than simply accusing. I've never had a problem with SmartFTP.botg wrote:SmartFTP gambles with your data.I ask, because when I use SmartFTP, the file is automatically uploaded after I make modifications without requesting confirmation.
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Because it is programmatically impossible to detect when it is safe to upload a file opened for editing.
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OK. Then provide the functionality and let me decide to take whatever risk there might be.botg wrote:Because it is programmatically impossible to detect when it is safe to upload a file opened for editing.
What is the real issue here? Is it that the development team does not know what needs to be changed in the code to permit this? Or, is the team unwilling to modify the code for the functionality that is available in other FTP programs?
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What development team?development team
Gambling with data doesn't meet botg's standards I guess. This is an FTP client and not a slot machine.
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This is a huge annoyance in FileZilla.ScubaMan7 wrote:OK. Then provide the functionality and let me decide to take whatever risk there might be.botg wrote:Because it is programmatically impossible to detect when it is safe to upload a file opened for editing.
What is the real issue here? Is it that the development team does not know what needs to be changed in the code to permit this? Or, is the team unwilling to modify the code for the functionality that is available in other FTP programs?
Having to confirm the upload of a changed file is an inconvenience that breaks my rhythm and slows me down. In HomeSite, or using FTP Folders in NotePad++, or PsPad, the file is uploaded as soon as I save it. How is FileZilla any different from that?
I understand your concern, botg. Yes, file corruption is an issue if you save too often and too fast and your FTP server still has an open handle on the first upload when subsequent uploads start. I get that, and it's a risk I'm willing to take - also a risk I can deal with as I have access to my server.
Having a checkbox for "Upload the file and don't ask again" on the confirmation box is a perfectly reasonable request. If it really bugs you, add a check to the queue that doesn't allow a file into any given queue more than once -- and toss up yet another confirmation box with a "Just a second, there, hoss..." message.
Scubaman7, for a couple of workarounds: FireFTP for Firefox uploads changes, no questions asked. It's a little resource heavy as Firefox continues to bloat - and especially if you have webmaster tools and Firebug installed - but it works.
Or, on Windows at least, you can install a tool like ClickOff to automatically click the OK button on the confirmation dialog - that's how I use it on my machine, and it works a treat whether FileZilla has the focus or not.
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I like the quostions. It makes me always double check if everything is ok before sending to ftp.
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I'm fully aware of the fact that it can be annoying, yet at the same time it is the only safe way. If there'd be any risk-free alternative, I'd implement it immediately.
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At least under Windows, couldn't the Volume Shadow Copy Service be used?botg wrote:Because it is programmatically impossible to detect when it is safe to upload a file opened for editing.
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Unfortunately no, it's also impossible to detect whether some other program has finished writing or if it's still going to write further data.