FileZilla 3 development diary

[jdratlif]

If the commandline version seems to be ab bit far from now, how about getting back to the idea of implementig automation support through the gui interface of filezilla?

No, I'd rather wait a few years until wx 3 stabilizes.

Have you ever considered switching to Qt? If you had to do a rewrite anyway.

[botg]

No, I don't like Qt. It isn't real C++ since it requires an additional compilation phase (moc).

[jdratlif]

No, I don't like Qt. It isn't real C++ since it requires an additional compilation phase (moc).

Not much of a strike against Qt imo, but it's your decision. I think Qt works better across platforms (in terms of similarity of performance) and is more polished, but it's not perfect. At the moment, I prefer it to wxWidgets, but I have used both.

[mno]

No, I don't like Qt. It isn't real C++ since it requires an additional compilation phase (moc).

But consider this: FileZilla on a PDA/cell phone. Wouldn't that be sweet?

[botg]

It's possible to install an X server on Android. Next port GTK+ and before you know it, wxWidgets will work as well.

Besides, there have been attempts at native ports of wxWidgets to mobile platforms such as WinCE or PalmOS, though these ports are in a desolate state due to lack of interest. In a community managed project such as wxWidgets, the state of the more exotic ports reflect the true demand. Whereas companies like Qt are getting paid huge sums to support these platforms, displaying an artificially inflated demand for such platforms.

Last but not least, the available resources on regular desktop and laptop PCs are fundamentally different from PDAs and cell phones. I'm not talking about trivial things like processing power (Moore's Law makes that problem solve itself), but in terms of interfaces. In particular limited screen size and restrictive input devices.
Even if you'd have a cell phone with a high-res screen and thus high DPI, the average finger size doesn't shrink. Universally all cell phones lack pointing devices as precise mice.

Give me one cell phone with standard 105-key keyboard layout and a precisioun mouse, coupled with a screen resolution of at least 1280x1024, then I'll move mountains to port FZ to that phone. There's a damn good reason the WIMP paradigm is so successful.

Consider netbooks as a step between high-end cell phones and low-end notebooks. Netbooks clearly show how traditional user interfaces begin to fail due the inherent limits of netbooks in terms of display resolution. Take away user input capabilities and ordinary applications become unusable.

[mno]

I understand your points about FileZilla being useless on a PDA/phone, I was really only kidding I doubt many people would REALLY need to FTP from their phones. But yes, maybe the netbook market could be useful to target, although that hardware tends to run full OSes in any case, so no point to make a special version.

Looking forward to next major version of FZ and thanks for your work!

[cynebald]

Most desired feature (according to a recent, unpublished telepathic survey of FileZilla users): tabs

[botg]

Most desired feature from my point of view: More developers. Feel free to participate in implementing tabs.

[cynebald]

I suppose more developers would be a desirable thing. Had I the requisite knowledge, I'd love to assist. Tabs or no tabs, though, FileZilla is a great application.

Cheers.

[Oldarney]

I won't implement any options to start transfers like I did in FileZilla 2. Adding those to 2.x was a big mistake, people were using FileZilla in a way it hasn't been designed for. For automated transfers, people should (wish: have) to use a commandline client.

I truelly dont get whats so wrong with allowing people to make automatic backups using FileZilla. It has everything that is needed exept for (delete files on target if not existant on source). 10 threads, high stability and super fast synchronizing make it an exellent choice for back ups.

The lack of an upload command made me find WinSCP (through these forums) after over 50 hours of searching for a good and fast backup solution to FTP. Its not at all a bad client, the only grudge i have is that it doesnt allow 10 threads like filezilla (only 9).

BTW is there an official download site for FileZIila 2.

Edit: it takes 5 minutes and 4 seconds to complete the backup, Filezilla takes only 1 minute 21 seconds... think about it. Specialized backup utility Bonkey takes over 40 minutes to complete the backup. btw the backup is just a comparison of files, no files are actually different so nothing is transferred in any of those instances.

[botg]

Since you found this thread you want to read up on the planned commandline client too.

[Oldarney]

Since you found this thread you want to read up on the planned commandline client too.

Did i mention i love you guys. This is going to be awesome. Imagine it, making a custom template in phpalbum.net then installing filezilla with an automatic backup of iphoto on the main photopgraphy guild computer. Pictures will be online within minutes after being transferred to the photo computer. Better yet all the computers will be backed up.

cant wait.

BTW: Kudos on the filesearch feature. I was just looking for that a week ago. Ended up manually deleting 100 thumb.db files on different folders.

[GoD]

I don't know why you don't use wput/wget or curl to upload and download files.
It works for ftp and http.

[boco]

Wput works only for FTP.

[GoD]

I've tested wput only with ftp. but I know that curl works with http.