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can't use gmail.com for registering FileZilla Forum account?

#1 Post by imthenachoman » 2018-12-06 13:52

Does anyone know if that will be changed in the future? I don't want to have to change e-mail providers because of one site. And I don't like having to have/use multiple e-mail accounts.

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#2 Post by botg » 2018-12-06 15:22

Google needs to get its spam problem under control. As long as gmail is free, there will always be atrocious amounts of spambots using Google, more than there are actual human users.

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#3 Post by imthenachoman » 2018-12-06 16:02

Really? I thought Google had the best spam control. What is the best e-mail service then? Maybe I need to move. And/or what is the most popular e-mail service based on this forum's membership?

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#4 Post by botg » 2018-12-06 16:19

Self-hosted is best.

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#5 Post by imthenachoman » 2018-12-06 17:41

Self-hosted e-mail? That comes with a slew of pre-requisites that not everyone can meet. Like you have to have reliable internet. Or purchase a VPS.

But I am curious, what self-hosting for e-mail solution do you use/recommend? It is something I have been looking into.

I personally hate Gmail and want to move off of it but can't figure out to what or where.

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#6 Post by botg » 2018-12-06 21:03

My preferred choice: Dedicated root server running Debian all the way. For mail software I currently use Exim4 for the SMTP part and Dovecot for the IMAP part.

You can rent a system with an Intel i7, 32GB of RAM, two SSDs and unlimited traffic at 1Gbit/s for a mere 40 bucks/month, most cellphone contracts are more expensive than that.

On the low end of the spectrum, a single-core cloud VPS with SSD storage, 2GB RAM and 20TB monthly traffic costs 3bucks/month. Due to Spectre/Meltdown I don't trust VPS to handle sensitive data though.

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#7 Post by imthenachoman » 2018-12-12 10:48

That's still a lot of money for the average consumer. Self-hosting e-mail comes with a lot of hassle and you miss out on many features like a more robust and evolved virus scanning and spam detection that you get with Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc...

I just wish there was a non self hosting option better than Google.

I am curious if its possible to export profile data for FileZilla users to see what e-mail hosting everyone is using. It would be a telling stat.

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#8 Post by dinismadeira » 2019-08-16 16:08

Had the same problem.

Just used a disposable temporary email since my legit email was not accepted.

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#9 Post by botg » 2019-08-17 15:56

dinismadeira wrote:
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used a disposable temporary email since my legit email was not accepted.
Not allowed here for security reasons.

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#10 Post by imthenachoman » 2019-08-21 17:07

botg wrote:
2019-08-17 15:56
dinismadeira wrote:
2019-08-16 16:08
used a disposable temporary email since my legit email was not accepted.
Not allowed here for security reasons.
I don't mean to sound rude but that is a lot of crock. "for security reasons" is a weak argument with no merit. "for security reasons" is the new "because I said so" -- it didn't float then nor does it float now.

I would love to see fact based evidence that highlights Gmails security woes/issues. I've been working in CyberSecurity for 10+ years and I have yet to see evidence that paints Gmail as any more insecure than any other public/free mail provider. Every company I have worked for has had e-mail spam issues but Gmail was not even in the top 5 of source problems.

And, there are numerous ways to prevent spam-bots, regardless if they come from Gmail or Yahoo or anywhere else. Outright blocking Gmail seems like an ego power trip to me -- especially considering Gmail is by far the most popular mail provider on the planet.

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#11 Post by boco » 2019-08-21 20:43

Security reasons refers to the trashmail accounts that will be consequently banned.

GMail simply has a huge spam problem. We tried a few times to re-enable it, only to be hit with tons of spam coming from GMail-enabled spam bots. As we like to dedicate our time to rather providing support for FileZilla and not to having to ban and delete GMail spam all day, it has to stay disabled for now.
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#12 Post by fredphoesh » 2019-08-23 12:59

boco wrote:
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GMail simply has a huge spam problem.
I have about 5 gmail accounts, and get zero spam on any of them... nothing that does not get caught by the excellent google spam filter.

I created another post as it is a slightly different topic, about registered users being able to change to their google accounts. I cannot see how this would make an iota difference security-wise, but perhaps it is easier to block the gmail domain globally than to disable it for original registration only.

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#13 Post by boco » 2019-08-23 20:11

It's not about the amount of spam sent to GMail accounts, it's about the amount of spam coming FROM spam bots registering with GMail accounts. Google doesn't verify the identity of its users, and bots mass-register accounts used for spamming. I do not see that changing anytime soon.

GMail has another annoying "feature" - the name can be varied and spaced with dots while still being valid. Single addresses cannot be banned efficiently.
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#14 Post by arbind004 » 2019-10-17 16:06

I have also try to register with gmail id but register failed due to Filezilla Disable register system with gmail id so that i have been register with business email id.
hope that filezilla will be allow register with gmail id soon.
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#15 Post by boco » 2019-10-17 17:50

Won't be anytime soon. And you already broke a forum rule - no commercial URLs allowed.
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